Police arrest 3 people that shared anime on Share
The Kyoto police have arrested 3 men on suspect of having shared anime on the Japanese p2p program Share. I originally ignored this piece of news thinking it was another one of those arrests that don’t really have anything to do with the actual p2p sharing that’s going on, but…
The three guys arrested were apparently 92JeyRfcya, YS2YSUOe1cLtf, and YnXmHqtxqS, popular anime encoders that have encoded huge amounts of anime for p2p for a long time. So… basically, there aren’t going to be many people that will dare to encode anime for release on p2p anymore.
The future of Japanese animation is saved! (?)
May 9th, 2008 at 6:40 am
whoa 92JeyRfcya o_O
I know some fansub teams that use his raws (which includes me… :P )
May 9th, 2008 at 6:56 am
That would be a good thing for Perfect Dark.
May 9th, 2008 at 7:00 am
No doubt the BBC will be late to the party :P
May 9th, 2008 at 7:17 am
I think the internet anime community just died. YS2 and especially 92J were pillars of the capping scene, pretty much doing every show. With them gone, the rest will likely pull out, leaving the fansubbers rawless. The only exceptions will be groups with private cappers, but it means more obscure shows will disappear completely.
In other words, we’re back in the 20th century.
May 9th, 2008 at 7:20 am
It’s time to use Perfect Dark!
May 9th, 2008 at 7:51 am
PD BITCHES
May 9th, 2008 at 8:26 am
YS2YSUOe1cLtf noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo D:
I’d love to use Perfect Dark but the text comes out as super small when I use it >:T
May 9th, 2008 at 8:41 am
If that means that anime fans won’t get the raws so they can make the conscious decision to put money on its licensed localization or not; then the dim future of anime (fandom) is pretty dim.
It’s about time we introduce the policy of getting all of our money back when we buy and show and then hate its guts.
May 9th, 2008 at 8:50 am
wtb niconico softsubs
May 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am
>text comes out as super small
LEARN HOW TO USED MUTAGEN/VISUAL.TXT
May 9th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
YS2YSUOe1cLtf is the best sat ripper, nooooooooooooo. T_______T
May 9th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
ZMOFG!!!!!
I was dling 92JeyRfcya and YS2YSUOe1cLtf caps for years!
May 9th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I kind of get the issue and not get the issue at the same time. I would say half of an anime’s viewers would be recorders and downloaders, unless everyone has the time and energy to stay up until past midnight to watch these shows. So going by that, losing half the viewership would mean losing half of the people to whom they can sell their (overpriced) goods like soundtrack CDs, mugs, illustration books, figures, and daki-makuras.
I would have thought they would take the grey-area approach to the issue. I was pretty sure that if you talk to an anime author or producer, they would say that they secretly would like to have everyone watch their shows.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
There are no effective promotional channels in the US other than through fansubs.
They’re asking us to buy DVDs without having seen the actual shows, whereas Japanese viewers would presumably have seen it on TV or on DVR or whatever. I don’t think that’s going to help sales at all.
Trailers and painfully slow streamed episode 1s aren’t going to change that. And don’t even talk about Adult Swim or the Anime Network.
May 9th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
is the new season of highschool girls out yet?
May 10th, 2008 at 4:25 am
men, why have you not answered me ?
May 10th, 2008 at 11:18 am
The JP article link is dead. They changed it for some reason
http://www.kyoto-np.co.jp/article.php?mid=P2008050900122&genre=C1&area=K00
May 10th, 2008 at 11:34 am
failure..
YS2 is not only 1 person.
I doubt it will die anyhow…
May 10th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
The three people arrested have been arrested for their distribution of anime such as Gundam from April 1 till 13.. I doubt it was those three users listed in the entry.
May 10th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
The 34 year old was distributing anime on Share since 2 years ago, and the 41 year old was using winny since 4 years ago and started using both winny and share and recently became share-only in April.
May 10th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
>uinreli
>They’re asking us to buy DVDs without having seen the actual shows, whereas Japanese viewers would presumably have seen it on TV or on DVR or whatever. I don’t think that’s going to help sales at all.
If ALL the viewers of illegal distributions had actually bought DVDs whose shows they’d once seen, your logic would’ve been right.
Plus, you can see many a review blog on the internet so you’re not still blindfolded. If you think you are, you have to admit you’re nothing but an idiot.
May 11th, 2008 at 1:12 am
@Anonymous
Yes, I’m an idiot - an idiot who actually spends thousands of dollars on merchandise and anime DVDs annually, and an embarrassment to my family because of it. I’m not a freeloader and I’m not foolish enough to think that the typical fansub watcher is going to go buy DVDs in the name of duty and honor. Most of those people would just move on to something else if they were cut off from free anime.
Personally I base my anime purchasing decisions largely on my fansub experiences with a show. I of course still buy shows that I’m not familiar with, but I’m far less likely to take risks there.
All I’m saying is that without fansubs, real awareness of all but the most heavily promoted shows will plummet, and buyers fatigue will increase if people wind up paying money for shows they get sick of halfway in or even sooner. In other words, the classic justification for fansubs… More viewers = more potential buyers, even if the proportion of freeloaders to buyers is 50:1.
Dedicated anime fans are a niche group. I don’t count casual viewers because they were never going to spend much money in the first place. Even in Japan, anime is a niche genre. Would the anime market in Japan continue to do well if almost every show was released in OVA format and there was no way to see a show other than on DVD? Plus OVA shows are usually kept short to sustain viewer interest.
May 11th, 2008 at 6:00 am
@unreali
Anonymous is a retard troll, web is full of them.
May 12th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Dudes, i am from Bulgaria. There are allmost no legaly licenzed animes here (Only naruto and pokemon). You can buy anime in USA almost everywhere. But here there is no such thing- no licenzed manga or anime and no merchandize.And no import of it from abroad. -bay and amazon are not widespread And the The only way to watch something fine is to download it via P2P.
If the fansubbing declines it will be something bad in Amerika, But in the small and poor countries it will be a disaster
May 13th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
@micci
Everyone who disagrees with you is a retard troll? His points were cogent and well made (if not all true, as proved by uinreli), which is more than can be said for someone whose only response to reasoned opposition is an ad hominem attack.
The insult he made use of was logically coherent to my mind, though if one can prove it otherwise then I will happily acquiesce.
@mantzikert
It sucks, but the world does not care. That’s what every argument I can give for why this happens would effectively boil down to.
Equal importance is a lie and companies do not care about anything other than their own profit. These statements are not rhetorical, they are facts - no matter how much they offend your beliefs.
May 14th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
A lot of people seem to be commenting on how these arrests really wont prove any help to the anime industry because it’s taking away American publicity. But you have to remember that these men weren’t arrested because the Anime industry willed it. They violated Japanese law, that’s why the police stepped in. In reality it wouldn’t have mattered if they where uploading Japanese Drama or video games, it all ends with the same consequences.