Okay, blame nihilistic music and violent video games. If someone is very, very, very mentally unstable, I guess it might have some sort of influence over a person, but Anime and Dragon Quest? …my faith in humanity has now gone lower than -1,000. Thank you Japan, for bringing the stupidity level even lower than it was before.

@Tyrenol: I go deep with all my shows.

Ah yes I’ll go watch my Panda-Z and Planetes now.

I’m afraid I can’t agree. Captain Harlock is pure cheesecake? Classic Gundam is pure cheesecake? Patlabor is pure cheesecake? The “ugly T-shirt otaku” covers every single anime out there, even the substantial classics. In fact, the older and more revered the show, the more, not less, “ugly T-shirt otaku” it is likely to harbor. This is even more so in Japan, where those classic anime simply have had more time and influence to get all sorts of people interested in it.

Putting aside the T-shirt test, I mean no disrespect, but honestly your preceeding definitions are still so incredibly vague and broad that they are useless. “90% of everything is crap” is certainly true, but so is “water is wet.” It’s true, but it’s not functionally useful information; it doesn’t help us process data any further than the original starting point.

Again, please don’t take this as an insult, but all that unfocused vagueness and negativity is beginning to give me the impression that your real complaints stem not from anime itself, but rather from the typical burnout that almost every dedicated long-time fan goes through. Your tastes have developed to the point where in order to match the enjoyment of your earlier days, the shows you watch must meet a more exacting, narrower, personalized standard. This is poses a problem, because anime is inherently mass-market entertainment, which means you will have to put more work into finding those few shows that appeal to you. Naturally, you resent having to do all that extra work for what used to come easy. Furthermore, that resentment may be coloring your perception of a few shows you could normally enjoy, making them seem like more crap than they actually are.

All I can say is maybe you should take a break and let your “anime-watching sensors” relax and recalibrate, instead of just pushing and searching harder and harder, building up more resentment and making things worse. For example, when your anime streaming video site was down for a few hours you ended up trying to derail an entirely unrelated discussion over it. I really think you need to step back, relax, and chill for a bit. All that anime out there won’t disappear forever just because you took a break from it.

/ as usual, I could be entirely off the mark; this is not professional advice; no guarantees; etc etc etc.

But if people REALLY want an example of “cheesecake;” I could say 90% of every anime made. Code Geass, Mai (Z)Hime, even Gundam now, Rosamia + Vampire, Haruhi, Lucky Star, everything Key, everything licensed under Geneon before the company sunk, every animu past 10:00pm and into the night, every animu based on visual novels that had the SUPERIOR sex removed, every animu based on gag manga, every animu without an average-looking guy, every animu that reveals some weak-looking guy getting bullied or (brow)beatened before a working plot is revealed. Anything the anime bloggers and #channelers start masturbating to…

Say the title of an anime you can think of, a time, and a place. And if some overweight, smelly, grotesque-looking guy with an anime T-shirt appears. That show is pure “cheesecake.”

The real tragedy is that Japan’s anime industry has the capability, and numerous opportunities to “not go there.” But it’s all for the ratings. For these guys, having genuine creativity is for looooooserrrrrrrs. Unfortunately for those outside of Japan/Asia, a company who licensed a loser product will FLOP if they don’t have “backup money.”

Truly sad considering how under-the-radar the really good shows are.

Tyrenol is cool in my book. Pedr and NOYFBa ren’t. But, hey, that’s my opinion.