Comments on: Doujin work

By: Anonylol

Anonylol — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:34:33 +0000

What about for doujin games? How much did it cost TYPE-MOON to release Tsukihime back then?

By: french frog...

french frog... — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:56:38 +0000

>I know they hold lottery to pick the circles. But does the comiket organizers give priority to large circles or artists?

They do, though only if the circles are applying.
For exemple ZUN somewhere wrote that he was always used to be accepted in every comicket, but when he signed under another circle name (drunken association), he got rejected lol

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 04:22:42 +0000

>Zepy
Cool, that answers one of the questions in my head.

I know they hold lottery to pick the circles. But does the comiket organizers give priority to large circles or artists?

By: Zepy

Zepy — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:21:26 +0000

>Anonymous
Doujinshi is usually done alone for the majority of the work, assistants are mainly used for weekly serializations when time is tight. Labour costs can’t really be calculated for doujin work most of the time because it’s like a personal hobby that’s done during personal time.

By: kransom

kransom — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:01:28 +0000

actually that’s almost all paper doujin-related costs, I don’t think you’d really have anything other than travel + cd/packaging costs + 3000-5000jpy application fee (M3 is 4000 for a full booth, 2500 for a mini), a tablecloth maybe and a cd player+headphones if for some reason you don’t have those

By: kransom

kransom — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:55:18 +0000

NOYFB: http://d.hatena.ne.jp/okome_chan/20081126/1227627555 seems handy for a cost breakdown, just replace all the instances of books with cds/case/jewel insert printing costs

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:12:36 +0000

So about 1,000,000yen left.

I didn’t see the cost of actually drawing the doujinshi, usually done by few people.

I wonder how much is the labour cost for drawing. I don’t think the assistant artist costs cheap…

By: cube

cube — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:01:49 +0000

That’s SLIGHTLY better than I expected. Some people seem to be under the impression that doujin, by definition, means that you will be in the red, and only those with TRUE PASSION and SELF SACRIFICE will do it, out of their own pocket. Granted, this is from a “really popular” circle, so I’m guessing a lot of smaller circles truly are SELFLESS HEROES and PURE FANS or whatnot.

By: k.

k. — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:50:57 +0000

@NOYFB:
in case this is a serious question, or if anyone else cares, 1000 pressed CD will cost you around 800 euros. The most expensive position is the Master CD here, so when ZUN orders 10.000 CDs the costs for a single one will be much cheaper.
Prices also vary a lot depending on the print. No print at all or 1 Color is much cheaper then a 4-Color one (4C = basically any color).

That said, lots of Doujinshi CDs (Music/Games) are CD-r anyway. You can have those duplicated for pretty low prices (10-20 euro cent for 1 copy, depending on amount and print) or even do it yourself. This is also the realistic option if you just want 50 copies or smth.

As I once checked that, the prices in Japan for CD duplicating are nearly the same as here in europe.

By: Sqrfrk

Sqrfrk — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:12:36 +0000

@Sqrfrk
That is, if the group is intending to continue until they make it big or fade into obscurity.